If Christianity is such a bad thing then why am I happier being one?

I have seen many Atheists state that humans should live logical lives and make ourselves happy while we have the chance in this life on earth, but I can tell you I am a very logical person and I am happy living my life for God. So if you say God doesn’t exist then why am I happy with my life?

Posted: August 3rd 2009


Truth and happiness are orthogonal concepts.

If you truly think that it’s more important to be happy than to have beliefs that are rationally supported, then there are a number of beliefs that will make you happy.

I prefer to live in the real world.

Posted: August 10th 2009

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flagellant www

Have you ever considered being a Mohammedan, a Jew, a Hindu, or a Sikh? When there are rival products on offer, doesn’t it make sense to check out at least one of them properly? (Try Pastafarianism ) Even more specifically, have you ever seriously considered atheism? Being an atheist is, after all, the natural position. We believe that there is insufficient evidence to prove the existence of any sort of god. Indeed, as more evidence accumulates from the Earth Sciences, the less likely the possibility of a god seems. The interventionist, loving, personal god of the bible seems particularly fanciful.

Just because Christianity makes you happy, it doesn’t mean that it’s either true or desirable. For example, heroin makes people happy, but you wouldn’t advocate its use generally, would you? People think all sorts of things that, with the benefit of calm consideration of the evidence, they might later be ashamed of: gamblers are convinced they’re going to win big, when logic should tell them that the odds are very much against them.

Again, do you remember the “Heaven’s Gate cult”:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven’s_Gate_(religious_group) ? In 1997, they committed suicide in the expectation of being whisked off in a spaceship hiding behind the Hale-Bopp comet. Some happy, wishful thinking
, eh?

Your Christian faith and your belief in god derive from a 2000 year-old document that mentions famines, floods, earthquakes, and disease as punishments from god. We now know full well the reasons for these phenomena. God doesn’t come into it. Wouldn’t it therefore be much more reasonable for you, instead, to have to justify your belief to us? It isn’t up to us to disprove your belief to you; you have to prove that your belief is well-founded. You may have difficulty doing that. Then, there’s the matter of accuracy.

Would you trust any document, written some 50-70 years after the events it purports to describe? We are fortunate to have access to documents that describe twentieth century events in detail. Imagine though, what it would be like if such records didn’t exist. How then could we even start to discuss the Second World War which began seventy years ago?

Finally, you should consult a logical philosopher about the overall form of your argument. He might explain to you that your argument is invalid and that you therefore have little right to call yourself 'logical’; a wishful thinker: 'Yes’, but logical: 'No!’ Your arguments about the existence of god and/or the 'rightness’ of Christianity are not advanced one iota by your happiness.

Posted: August 8th 2009

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Dave Hitt www

I’m sure that in the past, many Romans were happy to serve Zeus. Many Egyptians felt warm and comforted that Ra loved them. And Odin? When was the last time you heard of a Viking on Prozac?

Posted: August 5th 2009

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George Ricker www

Whether or not your religion makes you happy is irrelevant to whether or not a deity actually exists. For example, I was a Christian for many years before realizing my atheism. I have been a much happier and more productive individual since I got out from under the influence of gods and religions. But my attitudes in that regard are not proof no gods exist any more than yours are proof that one does.

As a “very logical person,” I would expect you to know that.

Let’s face it, some drug addicts and alcoholics are much “happier” when they are feeding their addictions than when they are not. That doesn’t mean the addictions are a “good” thing or that we should not discourage such addictions as and when we can.

IF you find your life more satisfactory with god-belief than without god-belief, then more power to you. As long as you don’t try to force your views on anyone else, you certainly have the prerogative of believing whatever you choose to believe.

Posted: August 5th 2009

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brian thomson www

The idea that your feelings tell you something definite about reality is demonstrably false. Have you never had the experience of feeling something totally inappropriate to your situation? (“Yes, it’s a funeral, but doesn’t the widow look hot in that little black dress?”)

Another well-documented example is Stockholm Syndrome, the tendency of kidnap victims to form an unnatural bond with their kidnappers.

When Richard Dawkins titled his book The God Delusion, I think he chose his words very carefully. I have yet to find a better word than “delusion”, for the mistaken belief that the way religion makes you feel is any kind of evidence for it. People feel all kinds of things for all kinds of reasons, and those reasons don’t have to be connected to reality.

Posted: August 5th 2009

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SmartLX www

Happiness is not contingent on the existence or non-existence of gods. Nor is it contingent on adherence to correct logic. You don’t have to be right about anything, let alone gods, to be happy.

Christianity may well have contributed to your happiness, I wouldn’t rule that out. The idea that people are “saved” and loved from on high can be very comforting, regardless of whether it’s true.

If providing reassurance and happiness were all religion did, there’d be no problem. Unfortunately religion, including Christianity in its many forms, is also responsible for violence, prejudice and the hindrance of useful science. Furthermore it causes a great deal of unnecessary anguish and loss of self-worth when people see themselves as evil sinners, and/or deride each other as such.

If people lose their faith, it’s far easier to replace their religion-based reasons to be happy than to replace their religion-based reasons to harm and judge others. The latter are largely based on arbitrary rules and divisions which don’t apply outside the world of faith.

I’m glad you’re happy. If I were to try to persuade you not to believe, I wouldn’t use increased happiness as an incentive. I would simply address your actual reasons for believing in God, and then trust that you would rather be happy about, and live your life for, things which are more likely to be real.

Incidentally capital A for atheism is not justified mid-sentence, any more than capital T for theism.

Posted: August 4th 2009

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